[HEADS-UP] systemd for F14 - the next steps

Jeff Garzik jgarzik at pobox.com
Wed Jul 14 21:00:23 UTC 2010


On 07/14/2010 03:33 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Wed, 14.07.10 15:18, Jeff Garzik (jgarzik at pobox.com) wrote:
>
>>
>> On 07/14/2010 03:08 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>>> I'd also argue that simply changing a symlink in /etc/systemd/system is
>>> a lot easier to understand and discoverable than having to edit old and
>>> crufty /etc/inittab which to fully understand you really must have a
>>> historical Unix background for.
>>
>> Strangely enough, a lot of Fedora users actually have a Unix/Linux
>> background.  ;-)
>>
>> "Easier to understand and discoverable" seems to vary from one's point
>> of view.  As the author of the change in question, of course it's easier
>> to understand and discover.
>>
>>   From the standpoint of -everyone else-, the change would be breaking
>> scripts and human knowledge needlessly.  There is no urgent need to
>> eliminate /etc/inittab.
>
> Well, not "everyone" else, only those which come from old-world Unix.
>
> I would have prefered if you would have taken up this fight with the
> Upstart people when it was added to Fedora. We are just finishing the
> work Upstart began in this area, and I am not really willing to fight
> now a battle  that if at all should have been fought some releases ago when
> Upstart was adopted.
>
> I am sorry, but I am not going to provide full compatibility with
> inittab within systemd. It's not supported in Upstart and I won't do a
> backwards flip and support it in systemd again.

Runlevel inittab changing works in all releases up to and including 
Fedora 13.  That should not change.

	Jeff




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