[HEADS-UP] systemd for F14 - the next steps

[Jon Masters]

On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 20:35 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2010, Colin Walters wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath at redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think the bigger question is why are we doing this?
> >
> > There's some motivation here:
> > http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd.html
> >
> 
> I was pretty clear in everything you cut off about the whole "You know
> what people need, they need this" and the whole developers making things
> for sysadmins because they think sysadmins need it thing.  0pointer.de is
> Lennart's post.  If this is only being developed and driven by the same
> people perhaps we should just step back, get it functioning for a while,
> _then_ lets talk about replacements.  If you guys feel that strongly about
> it, you'll still feel that way a year from now when the whole system is
> developed and working right?  Perhaps then it can go into Fedora?
> 
> This should probably say "systemd for F16"

+1 FWIW. I'm not a huge sysv fanboi either, but I do care about the
experience of sysadmins and the upstream for other projects, and I would
like to see some soak time for this before everyone needs to switch. I
can otherwise just imagine the amount of documentation out there -
books, online resources, etc. that will all be out of date for Fedora
(and perhaps other projects later) but not for other distributions.

Jon.