[HEADS-UP] systemd for F14 - the next steps

[Chris Adams]

Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering <mzerqung at 0pointer.de> said:
> So, please, when Jef finishes his work, or I find the time to, we will
> provide chkconfig compat too (at least to a certain degree). However,
> doing this is actually just the cherry on top of the topping of our
> delicous cake. But even without the cherry it still would be very yummy
> and still have topping.

The cake is a lie! :-)

> Yes, I guess being a developer who develops new stuff I like innovation
> in interfaces more than administrators who then might end up using
> this.

See, that's a problem.  You are designing a tool to be used by admins,
but you blow off what admins like.

> Also, one last thing: there's so much in systemd that admins should
> really love. It would be great to sometimes look on the bright side of
> things. One small and random example, just to make a point: Look how
> awesome the output of "systemctl status avahi-daemon.service" is:

Okay, there's some interesting stuff there I guess.  It isn't something
I'll need on a regular basis.  Including a process tree isn't always a
good idea (think sendmail and dovecot on busy mail servers; hundreds of
lines of output).  When I want to see a process tree, there are already
tools to do that (I prefer the traditional Unix philosophy to make
things do one job and do it well, or just run perl for everything).

-- 
Chris Adams <cmadams at hiwaay.net>
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.