[HEADS-UP] systemd for F14 - the next steps

[Paul W. Frields]

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:11:31AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 03:52:06PM +0200, drago01 wrote:
> > Everyone has to pay this cost and everyone gets something in return.
> 
> And the way you present this as an _overall win_ is by emphasizing the
> returns and decreasing the costs.
> 
> What I hear is discounting the costs as real, rather than actually trying to
> decrease them. This makes enemies out of your would-be supporters.

Congratulations on a not-very-charged statement of how to use this
thread constructively.  When the experienced system administrators in
this thread bring in their real-world cases of "How should we deal
with common situation <X>?", that should be answered with "You can do
that in the following ways: <Y>.  And if that doesn't work, let's
discuss *how* it doesn't work," all of which can be done without
attacking people's skills, intelligence, foresight, or motives on
either side.

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