[HEADS-UP] systemd for F14 - the next steps

[Horst H. von Brand]

Lennart Poettering <mzerqung at 0pointer.de> wrote:
> On Thu, 22.07.10 12:06, Dave Airlie (airlied at redhat.com) wrote:

[...]

> > Wow thats pretty special... both an option called realize and a
> > argument, that won't get confusing no matter how long it lives, also
> > realize doesn't seem to be conveying a useful meaning, I'm a native
> > speaker and I'm not sure what you actually mean by realize in this
> > context.
> > 
> > I'm going with:
> > 
> > to make real; give reality to (a hope, fear, plan, etc.).
> >  
> > but its seems quite an abstract term to associate reality with an
> > abstract computer object.
> 
> Well, I am not a native speaker. We were looking for a verb that
> basically means "make this take effect immediately". 
> i.e. the "enable"/"disable" commands makes some changes for the next
> time they are looked at, and then adding --realize on top makes those
> changes take effect immediately, i.e. so that the unit is start/stopped
> according to those changes. We actually used "--start=" first (which
> however is very confusing when you'd write "disable --start" to disable
> something and then have it stop...) We then considered "--now", because
> it is not a verb.

What is wrong with that? "enable --now" and "disable --now" read right (to
me at least).

>                   But eventually we stuck with --realize. It's not
> great, yes. But we couldnt think of anything better. Happy to take
> suggestions. But no, --take-effect-immediately is not really an option.

What do other commands use for "do it now" (instead of "later")? Perhaps
the ubiquitous "-f/--force" will do?
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