[HEADS-UP] systemd for F14 - the next steps

Horst H. von Brand vonbrand at inf.utfsm.cl
Fri Jul 23 01:11:31 UTC 2010


Lennart Poettering <mzerqung at 0pointer.de> wrote:
> On Wed, 14.07.10 21:38, Bill Nottingham (notting at redhat.com) wrote:

[...]

> > I think some of this is just the tools being inconsistent in terminology.
> > 
> > Take systemctl:
> > 
> > - It has a LOAD column (which is always 'loaded', in observation)
> 
> Well, that is a hint whether the unit file was loaded properly. It can
> happen that a running service has an invalid unit file (i.e. you started
> service with a valid file, then edited and reloaded the config file), so
> the "load" state is independendant of the runtime state. That said, we
> probably could suppress this column for services which loaded fine
> (which should be the usual case)

Better mark them off-band somehow (i.e., a extra column (normally empty, no
header) that shows failures/abnormal cases).

[...]

> > - IT has JOB column (which is always empty, in observation)
> 
> Well, its empty if there's nothing started or being stooped right now,
> or is waiting for some dependencies to start/stop. It will be empty if
> your systemd started up completely, because there is nothing to do.

Ditto.
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