Firefox 4 for Fedora 14?

[Peter Jones]

On 07/28/2010 02:25 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010, Peter Jones wrote:
> 
>> On 07/28/2010 01:10 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 11:37 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 03:04:46PM +0200, Florent Le Coz wrote:
>>>>>   On 28/07/2010 14:52, Mike McGrath wrote:
>>>>>> In my opinion including software that even upstream says is not ready is
>>>>>> for a distribution that's "lost their way".  We can still be a leading
>>>>>> distribution and not include pre-release software.  Especially pre-release
>>>>>> software that's not only in our critical path, but also something that
>>>>>> almost all of us use every day.
>>>>> I agree, but doesn't that mean that Firefox 4.0 won't be available in
>>>>> F14 at all and will only be in F15?
>>>>> I think it would be a huge drawback for Fedora 14.
>>>>
>>>> It would be huge if there people who can't live without it didn't have
>>>> any other way of getting it than having it pre-packaged.  I think
>>>> Firefox 4 looks to be fantastic, but the truth is that people only
>>>> have to wait a few months for a release with it pre-packaged, if
>>>> they're not able to add it on their own.
>>>
>>> I'd rather we provide them a package than have people going out and
>>> installing software from third-party sources (yes, mozilla.org is hardly
>>> Evil, but it sets a bad precedent). I really don't see much of a reason
>>> we can't ship it as a post-release update. We'd probably want to do that
>>> in the end anyway, because Mozilla tends to stop security supporting old
>>> branches anyway; it's certainly plausible that they stop supporting 3.x
>>> during F14's support lifetime.
>>
>> Just because it isn't in the F14 repo doesn't mean it won't be available to
>> people who really want a packaged version earlier - look at spot's chromium
>> packages, for example.  And I really expect the F14-F15 time frame to be a very
>> similar situation with Firefox - just because it's released doesn't mean there
>> isn't some time to wait before it's really shippable.  6 months won't be the
>> end of the world, especially if it's added to an add-on repo someplace so
>> people can get it if they really want something other than ff3.
>>
> 
> Perhaps it's time to figure out how to make things like Tom's chromium
> more official.  Find actual hosting/mirroring for that stuff, make a clear
> path to get people to it but also letting them know "hey, your milage may
> vary".

I would really like to see kopers happen, yes.  That'd be great.

-- 
        Peter

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		-- Donald Knuth

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