-upstart subpackage vs tranditional initscripts

Lennart Poettering mzerqung at 0pointer.de
Wed Jun 2 19:39:16 UTC 2010

On Wed, 02.06.10 15:27, Tom Lane (tgl at redhat.com) wrote:

> Michael Cronenworth <mike at cchtml.com> writes:
> > If you can make everyone move away from sysv to something else, then by 
> > all means I'll do my best to aid in patches, but I don't have much 
> > confidence since everything that has been said about systemd has been 
> > said of upstart a few years ago. Instead of reinventing the wheel time 
> > and time again, there are other features that deserve attention.
> Quite.  As a packager looking on from the sidelines, this discussion
> leaves me wondering why I should expend my non-copious free time on
> implementing upstart^H^H^Hsystemd^H^H^Hmaybe something else next year
> init scripts.  I'll just stick with the tested sysv ones, thanks.

Well, while I do object to this kind of conservative thinking I am
actually not opposed to the conclusion.

i.e. it's fine if people just ship sysv in most cases. It's fine to have
a slow transition. As long as the core packages have native scripts and
even socket-based activation we already win a lot.

But anyway, we probably should not continue the systemd discussion here,
at this time.


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