Stephen John Smoogen
smooge at gmail.com
Wed Jun 9 01:48:18 UTC 2010
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Brandon Lozza <brandon at pwnage.ca> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler at chello.at> wrote:
>> Luke Macken wrote:
>>> This report definitely conveys the shortcomings in our testing, however,
>>> it does show us improving with each release. For Fedora 13, we implemented
>>> the No Frozen Rawhide process with improved Critical Path policies, which
>>> were definitely a success. With these enhanced procedures, along with the
>>> upcoming implementation of AutoQA and the new Package update acceptance
>>> (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_update_acceptance_criteria), I
>>> think we'll see these numbers drastically improve in the future.
>> Only because those numbers are taylored towards that very process (they
>> measure the exact same things that process is going to enforce) and do not
>> reflect the actual quality of the packages in any way.
>> You can make really anything a "success" by measuring the very symptoms of
>> the process and calling them a metric of "quality".
>> The reasons for which Bodhi karma (especially in its current incarnation) is
>> a completely broken indicator of quality have been pointed out in several
>> past threads.
> I'll have to agree with Kevin. I can't how any of those numbers
> represent the quality of anything.
Well the only person I see mentioning quality is Kevin. And for some
reason he is expecting it immediately when Luke said 3 things:
1) This was what he could initially see.
2) He thinks he sees improvement of what was measured, but he is
interested in what would be better indicators.
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