pidgin obsoleting itself

Stu Tomlinson stu at
Wed Jun 9 14:38:48 UTC 2010

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:19, Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at> wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 14:06:48 +0400, Peter wrote:
>> 2010/6/9 Chen Lei:
>> > But in this case, the obsoletes seems excessive, since
>> > pidgin-evolution already depends on pidgin.  If pidgin-evolution don't
>> > depend on pidgin, the obsoletes is a must, without it pidgin will be
>> > replaced by pidgin-evolution.
>> If it pidgin-evolution was previously in main package, then this
>> obsoletes is required. W/o this requires users may suffer from missing
>> functionality after upgrade.
>> Briefly:
>> * We need to split off p.-e, from pidgin
>> * We need to install both of them while upgrading (Obsoletes in
>> pidgin-evo) in order not to loose functionality.
>> * We need to not erase main pidgin (Obsoletes in pidgin)
> I wonder who's spreading theories like that? It's not the first time
> this has come up in the past weeks. Most recently affected was nagios.

I implemented it based on recommendations on the yum wiki that I saw
someone else referred to in #fedora-devel :

> You _cannot_ add _optional_ packages to a user's installation _without_
> proper dependencies somewhere else. Attempts at trying to do that with
> Obsoletes are invasive and prone to getting it completely wrong.

I thought that a reference from yum was a reasonably safe bet to be a
good thing to follow.



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