PROPOSAL: Fedora user survey

Terry Barnaby terry1 at
Wed Mar 10 09:20:11 UTC 2010

On 03/09/2010 06:20 PM, Ewan Mac Mahon wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 05:55:33PM +0000, Terry Barnaby wrote:
>> On 09/03/10 16:50, Ewan Mac Mahon wrote:
>>> On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 09:33:45AM -0500, Al Dunsmuir wrote:
>>>> I  have  limited  time to do system installs and maintenance. Sticking
>>>> with  one  distribution  helps keep that sane. I have a dual boot XP +
>>>> Ubuntu machine that I do some play with, but I find it strange, having
>>>> used  Fedora  since  FC3.
>>> You should consider running a RHEL rebuild like Scientific Linux or
>>> CentOS then; they're very Fedora-like in most respects, and are
>>> supported for very, very long periods.
>> The trouble is that Fedora does not want to lose this user or group of
>> users.
> I don't think it's about the users so much as the uses; I run Fedora on
> machines it's suitable for, and SL where that's a better fit. I am not
> lost to Fedora. Equally Al Dunsmuir clearly also has multiple systems
> (hence wanting to keep one distribution); so there's no reason to think
> they couldn't do the same.
>> If all of the users that use Fedora for reasonably important
>> tasks (not mission critical) stop using it, it will lose all of the
>> real use testing and feedback to upstream developers that Fedora is
>> good for and Linux needs.
> I use Fedora for important things, both by home and work desktops run
> it, I just don't use it for things that I expect to run for a long time
> without interruption or intervention or alteration.
>> My feeling is that is likely to be happening ...
>> I think Fedora should have a carefully balanced position between the
>> mission critical systems and completely play only systems.
> I think that's a false dichotomy; Fedora shouldn't be a bad system
> unsuitable for real work, it should be a good system. But it can still
> be a good fast-moving system. There doesn't seem much purpose in trying
> to turn it into a good stable long running server system, when we have a
> perfectly good one of those already. 
> Clearly, if there was a way to have Fedora's 'freshness', but RHEL's
> lack of hassle that would be ideal, but it's not clear that there is.
> Ewan
I agree with you, except that I think Fedora's balance has moved a bit
to far in the fast-moving, frontier direction. I also use Fedora
for home servers and workstations at work and have done so for many years.
I also use RHEL/CentOS for stable mission critical systems.
However I am finding that Fedora is getting to unstable, too frontier
and hard to maintain even for the purposes I use it. My home customers
(the wife and kids :) ) are now starting to complain!
I can see users like myself moving to Ubuntu or other systems. If this
is the case Fedora will lose some of it's testing community and probably
the best testing group.


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