Stable Release Updates types proposal (was Re: Fedora Board Meeting Recap 2010-03-11)

[Stephen John Smoogen]

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Matthew Woehlke
<mw_triad at users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> Jon Masters wrote:
>> On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 01:09 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>>> Jesse Keating wrote:
>>>> Then in my opinion those users, and those maintainers who wish to cater
>>>> to those users, can go start their own project.
>>>
>>> Even if those users are 70+% of the current Fedora users?
>>
>> Prove it.
>
> Prove that it *isn't* true.

Neither can be done without an outside/neutral polling agency
contacting and getting responses from at least 600-3000 random Fedora
users. The poll that was given was one that could be easily stuffed
and not easily proven that it wasn't. Relying on the forum for data is
bad science and makes this whole argument more and more farcical. I am
saying this as a mostly neutral body.. I really don't care one way or
another beyond my google account is running out of diskspace because
of it.


> First off: I'm not asking for unbaked stuff. Second, "unbaked stuff" Is
> exactly why I have no intention of using rawhide. As for proving my
> point, well I've been trying to get through to you people² for the last

Here is where we have a definition problem. To me, unbaked stuff is
things that haven't had a good month of testing if its a large change
(a couple of days if its a small one). To you its something else. To
Jon it is probably something else. Without defining what you mean and
findout what they mean.. there is no conversation.

Most of these threads are hogwash. People are spending more time
reading into each others motives without asking for clarification than
actually doing the hard work of saying "I don't know what you mean."
All this fucking flag waving and "This is my distribution and you are
killing it." from BOTH sides is below childish.

I have better behaved cub-scouts after feeding them with sugar cookies
and giving them woopie cushions. [And I don't want to hear about who
started it.. it does not matter at this point.]



-- 
Stephen J Smoogen.

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