Res: Open Letter: Why I, Kevin Kofler, am not rerunning for FESCo

Peter Jones pjones at
Tue May 4 15:37:54 UTC 2010

On 05/03/2010 12:51 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Jesse Keating wrote:
>> On Mon, 2010-05-03 at 14:01 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>>> [1] And I appreciate that I made a mistake with hal-storage in this
>>> cycle that caused inconvenience for people maintaining other spins, so
>>> I'm not going to claim any kind of perfection in this area
>> Which just adds reason to why we are doing necessary karma and automated
>> testing, because humans make mistakes, no matter how much fun or not fun
>> they are having.
> Except karma requirements (which were in force due to the critical path 
> process) did NOT prevent this particular regression, nor would a "1 week 
> minimum in testing" requirement have prevented it (the update spent 8 days 
> in testing). That process DOES NOT WORK. It just adds extra bureaucracy and 
> delays the fix for the regression. (But thankfully, direct stable pushes are 
> still possible for KDE packages, which allowed us to do one to fix this 
> regression quickly.)

Wait just a second - you're arguing that requiring testing doesn't work
because nobody tested the KDE spin within 8 days. You might want to rethink
this position.


If you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the precipitate.

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