How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

[Hedayat Vatnakhah]

On ۱۰/۰۵/۰۸  06:01, drago01 wrote:
> On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Hedayat Vatankhah<hedayat at grad.com>  wrote:
>    
>> Hi all,
>> There is a bug in Fedora package management since FC4 (except Fedora 8)
>> that potentially affects ALL of the Fedora installation DVD users
>> (people who are not annoyed by this bug will probably find other
>> alternatives more suitable (e.g. Live CD install, Network install or the
>> new BFO if I spell correctly!)). The reason that this bug is still open
>> is not technical, but almost completely political. And as I see it in
>> the current state, it is not going to be fixed anytime soon.
>>
>>
>> The mentioned bug is this one:
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=435625  (installation media
>> support in PackageKit).
>>
>>
>> While a user can create a repo file for the DVD's mount point and go
>> with it, but that is not acceptable for a new user to live with such a
>> solution.
>>
>>
>> It is really annoying that the installation DVD is useless for an
>> ordinary user after installation. And this is really unfortunate that
>> this bug is still open because of such small issues.
>>      
>
> Why?
>
> The installation DVD is for installing the system that's it.
>
> Installing software from it afterwards is pointless anyway as updates
> might cause dep conflicts and or provide newer/fixed versions anyway.
>    
Somebody who have a good internet connection and will install any new 
packages from the internet will not go with installing from DVD at the 
first place. Why should somebody download more than 3GB and use a very 
small amount of it at the installation time and then install any extra 
packages from the internet?! Such a person will probably use LiveCD 
install, or he can happily download the netinst iso (which is just about 
150MB) and then install directly from the internet. Notice that a lot of 
DVD users do not download it themselves and will buy it or receive it 
from another person. And they need to be able to use it as much as 
possible.

If it is still ambiguous, let me bring an example: currently I have only 
a dial-up connection at home. As a result, my Fedora 11 installation is 
not updated at all (maybe only its pidgin, which I have downloaded by 
hand and installed). Even downloading the repository metadata is 
something I try to avoid as much as possible. So, I almost NEVER update 
my Linux installation in home, except if I really need it or it is so 
small (thanks to delta rpm, it is possible to update a little more). 
There are many users which will almost never install any packages from 
the internet except when they really need it, and also you should be 
aware that many prefer to buy DVDs which contain additional software 
rather than downloading that themselves.

Goo luck,
Hedayat

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