Reasons for hall monitoring

Hedayat Vatankhah hedayat at
Mon May 10 14:05:11 UTC 2010

/*Adam Williamson <awilliam at>*/ wrote on 05/10/2010 3:18:06 PM 
> On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 11:33 +0200, Matěj Cepl wrote:
>> Dne 10.5.2010 11:26, drago01 napsal(a):
>>> To have stuff just work.
>> Go to and ask your congressman to fix it. Otherwise
>> (for example if you don't have your congressman because you are not a
>> U.S. citizen), you can also try to move Red Hat's headquarters outside
>> of U.S. (although I am not sure, it would be enough, you would probably
>> ask its biggest clients to move).
> That's the wrong argument. We all know why we _can't_ make it just work,
> but that doesn't excuse us. Sorry to take a well-worn analogy, but if
> two guys are trying to sell you cars, and one doesn't have an engine,
> would the fact that the guy selling the car with no engine has a *really
> good and inarguable reason* why it doesn't have an engine make you buy
> that car? Hell no. You'd buy the car with the engine.
> Just because we have a *really good reason* we can't ship this stuff
> doesn't mean we are excused from the fact that it's a distinct negative
> for the use of our operating system as a general-purpose desktop
> operating system.
Just my 0.2 cents in this regard: well, we have a car without engine, 
and a suitable engine is built somewhere which we can't use. But, I 
wonder why there is nobody to pick our car and the engine and sell the 
car with engine to people who don't want to do that themselves?
RPMFusion is a very well-known engine builder! While there were/are some 
efforts to ship our car with its engine, there is no well-known Fedora 
remix which contains the extra stuff (it is probably because most of the 
current users have already adopted with using rpmfusion if they want 
it). If we can come up with enough people to provide and maintain a 
Fedora remix for awhile, it can become well-known and something which is 
always there, so we can point beginners to that one instead of other 
distros if they want such a distro.
We (I and a very few others) are going to create a remix, but our 
current target users are a bit more restricted (mostly because of lack 
of manpower) (Also we are currently targeting a DVD installation media 
rather than live media).  But if there are some other interested people 
out there, we can go for the mentioned remix (and we will probably base 
our custom remix on that).

Good luck,
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