moderated/held messages on mailing lists

Matt_Domsch at Matt_Domsch at
Fri May 21 21:41:14 UTC 2010

It has nothing to do with disk space.  Sitting on a few hundred thousand spam messages for no reason, that'll get ignored forever, and that slow mailman down, serves no purpose.

If moderators want to actually moderate their lists for spam and non-subscribers, they're welcome to do so.  But to be configured to moderate, but never actually moderate, serves no purpose.

Matt Domsch
Technology Strategist
Dell | Office of the CTO

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard W.M. Jones [mailto:rjones at] 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 4:36 PM
To: Seth Vidal
Cc: admin at; devel at
Subject: Re: moderated/held messages on mailing lists

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 05:25:00PM -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>  If you are receiving this email then you are listed as the owner of a  
> mailing list hosted by the fedora project. We've had a lot of messages  
> sitting in the heldmsg queue in mailman. This is where messages that are  
> being held for list admin or moderator approval go. They sit there 
> FOREVER until someone discards them.
> With this in mind we'll be instituting a 1 month age out for these  
> messages. If a message is in the heldmsg queue for longer than 1 month 
> the message will be discarded.
> Most of these messages are from people (or spam bots) who are not  
> subscribed to the list. If you would rather that messages from addresses  
> not subscribed to the list were rejected instead of being held for  
> approval, this is a configuration option in the mailing list admin pages 
> available to you, the list owner.
> If you have questions on how to set that up please feel free to contact  
> the fedora infrastructure folks.

Is disk space so expensive these days?


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