systemd (Was Re: tmpfs for strategic directories)

Andrew Parker andrewparker at
Wed May 26 13:53:17 UTC 2010

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Chuck Anderson <cra at> wrote:
> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 08:54:23AM -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 May 2010, Simo Sorce wrote:
>> > While you don't edit them *all* the time, it is something that is done
>> > regularly, and it is something most admins can do with ease.
>> > Turn them in a C program and you left admins out in the cold, most of
>> > them.
>> >
>> > I would be very, very wary of accepting a C "init script".
>> > An unmanageable system is a useless system.
>> +20 million.
>> I couldn't agree more. They need to be scripts, considering how seldom
>> they actually run it makes even less sense to chase down optimization in
>> them by making them compiled.
> -21 million.
> Scripts are a crutch to avoid properly designed daemons and
> configuration systems.  I never edit initscripts to "configure"
> daemons, because they would just be overwritten at the next package
> upgrade.  Configuration should be separate from code.

I don't edit them, but I do frequently look at  them to see what
they're doing/why they aren't doing something/what config files i can
add/edit to change behaviour etc.

actually, i do edit them sometimes to add a temporary "-x" to them.
sure as heck beats gdb.

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