systemd (Was Re: tmpfs for strategic directories)

Michael Cronenworth mike at
Wed May 26 16:32:42 UTC 2010

Adam Williamson wrote:
> I beg to differ. I've had to create or modify initscripts quite often,
> either as a sysadmin or a packager. If this is now going to require C
> coding skills, I'm not going to be able to do it. I don't think it's
> safe to assume that everyone who needs to write or modify an initscript
> is going to know C. What about people who write apps that need
> initscripts in some other language?

What about a compromise? The initscripts are plain text files that get 
compiled after you edit them.

Solution 1 Example:
viinit postgresql
Make your changes
viinit compiles your script into a binary.

Solution 2: Give Bash JIT.

OTOH, why is this even a sub-topic in this sub-topic of a thread? I'd 
love to see some numbers from the complainers about scripting being 
slow. I have a normal Fedora 13 x86_64 system that boots through 
initscripts in under 10 seconds. Normal services are starting as I have 
not "tweaked" my service list. Unless Fedora needs a 1 second boot time 
(hey I wouldn't complain) do we really need to spend time on 100+ email 
threads and jump through multiple init systems to find that perfect 
solution? I've read similar claims of salvation when upstart was being 
marketed to replace SysVinit. "Everyone will switch to native scripts 
and everything will be better!" Has everyone switched to native upstart 
scripts? AFAIK - No. Will everyone switch to systemd native scripts? I'm 
betting - no.

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