systemd (Was Re: tmpfs for strategic directories)

Lennart Poettering mzerqung at
Mon May 31 23:01:36 UTC 2010

On Wed, 26.05.10 17:41, Bill Nottingham (notting at wrote:

> James Findley (sixy at said: 
> > Actually the blog post is proposing exactly that, as I read it.  And it 
> > seems not only that lots of other people read it the same way, but some 
> > even agree with it.
> > 
> > So I'm not sure I see how this is going off into the weeds - if 
> > transitioning some/all initscripts to C is a genuine goal of the author 
> > of the project, on which he is not prepared to budge, then that is 
> > likely to have bearing on its adoption into fedora, and rightly so.
> What I took from it is that code like this from rc.sysinit:
> ...
> if [ ! -e /proc/mounts ]; then
>         mount -n -t proc /proc /proc
>         mount -n -t sysfs /sys /sys >/dev/null 2>&1
> fi
> ...
> really doesn't need to be there. If you're redesigning the init system,
> rather than keeping compatibility with ancient stupid sysvinit, there's
> no reason that shell code is needed for this; init should Just Do It when
> it starts. In fact, I'm pretty sure recent upstart releases do the same
> thing. I'm sure we can find more examples if we look.

Yes, this is exactly what I meant.


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