Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

Dennis Jacobfeuerborn dennisml at conversis.de
Tue Nov 9 15:09:50 UTC 2010


On 11/09/2010 10:05 AM, Jon Masters wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-11-06 at 08:43 +0000, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 01:36:43AM +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
>>> On 11/06/2010 12:21 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 03:16:11PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>>>>> Richard W.M. Jones (rjones at redhat.com) said:
>>>>>>> Has anyone looked into bringing Wayland to Fedora? If not this might be the
>>>>>>> right time getting involved in the discussion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://wayland.freedesktop.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's the implication for people who absolutely need to use
>>>>>> X applications remotely?
>>>>>
>>>>> Use VNC. (Or your similar protocol of choice.)
>>>>
>>>> That's not a serious alternative.
>>>
>>>    From what I've read so far you can run rootless X as a Wayland client so
>>> you can just use your remote X apps like you did in the past next to native
>>> Wayland apps. Also if there is a real interest in this feature then this
>>> could be implemented for Wayland it would just not be part of the core.
>>
>> And what happens when all the apps are native Wayland apps and
>> none of those can be run remotely?
>>
>> If I wanted to step back to the pre-net era, I'd run Windows.
>
> +1 for bringing these points up. No offense to krh (because it's nice
> technology) but you can pull my genuine networked applications from my
> cold dead hands. I agree that I see this ongoing trend to move toward
> things that are fluffy and pretty at the cost of flexibility.

Looks more like a case of crying wolf to me. It's probably going to take a 
year before Wayland can be turned on as the default desktop and it's 
probably going to take several years before X can possibly go away so to 
use this kind of hyperbole is really just flamebait.

It's fine to bring your concerns up but please postpone this "we are all 
going to die" routine until we *actually* have something to complain about.

Regards,
   Dennis


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