Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17)

[Kevin Kofler]

Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> So, there are no folks in the KDE sig using F13 anymore?
> 
> Perhaps call for testers in the users / kde lists?

I think this issue goes far, far beyond just KDE. There are packages which 
have few users even for Fedora n, let alone n-1.

Yet another example of the update processes delaying an update for ages is 
the recent libgsf update 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libgsf-1.14.18-1.fc13 , which was 
stuck for a month until the maintainer sent a nagmail to this mailing list 
(a method to get provenpackager attention which doesn't really scale). 
(libgsf is critpath due to being a dependency of something critical, so it 
gets the extra-hardcore policy.)

The processes just don't work, for the EXACT reasons I had brought up back 
when they were about to be introduced. It's time to stop living in denial, 
admit that the new processes are a failure and repeal them entirely.

        Kevin Kofler