Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17)

Mike Fedyk mfedyk at
Mon Nov 22 20:31:05 UTC 2010

On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler at> wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
>> How do you expect to be able to maintain an entire desktop environment
>> on a distribution you don't even have installed? I have some sympathy
>> for the 'fifty people said it works on F14, it probably works on F12
>> too' argument, but for a *small, leaf* package, not for an entire
>> desktop environment! If I were a KDE user running F12 I'd feel very
>> unsafe knowing someone was happily pushing updates of the entire
>> environment who did not even have a running F12 machine.
> I've sometimes actually done testing on older releases out of sheer laziness
> to upgrade to a newer one (see also me testing that F13 KDE 4.5.3 upgrade),
> but with all this bullying of "Want current software? Upgrade your Fedora!",
> with previous supported releases getting only second-class upgrade support,
> that's going to stop soon (in fact, I'll probably upgrade my machines to F14
> before the end of the month). (Pretty much everyone else in KDE SIG always
> runs the latest Fedora. I'm almost the only one left on F13.) So by limiting
> the kind of support previous releases get, you're actually INCREASING the
> risk of untested updates, by making it unattractive for your developers to
> run those releases.

So they stay in updates-testing until someone does actually test them.

We all know that the longer that updates wait in updates-testing the
more likely the world will stop spinning.

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