Linux and application installing

seth vidal skvidal at fedoraproject.org
Tue Sep 7 13:21:56 UTC 2010


On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 09:19 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 09:11 -0400, seth vidal wrote:
> > On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 17:27 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > > On 09/07/2010 05:16 PM, Richard Hughes wrote:
> > > > Linux has traditionally shown the user packages to update and install,
> > > > which is great for administrators, but sucks hard for end users. How
> > > > many times have you been prompted with an update list that asks you to
> > > > decide whether to update something you have no idea about[1]?
> > > >
> > > > Mo illustrated[2] a few days ago about how confusing the updater is
> > > > and I agree with her; and it's mostly my fault. Lists of unlocalized
> > > > generic packages are so 1990's, and compared with the Ubuntu Software
> > > > Center or the Android App-store we look like amateurs.
> > > 
> > > Thoughts on making the software center less distro specific?  Couldn't
> > > the UI be grafted on top of the PK api?
> > 
> > okay - I'll bite - why do we want to make it less distro-specific? What
> > does it get us? It means we have to deal with a bunch of
> > Lowest-common-denominator issues and it means a looser coupling of the
> > tools we have.
> > 
> > It is legit to write tools for fedora that are FOR fedora. Why not do
> > that? 
> 
> Because sharing infrastructure and tools is raising the lowest common
> denominator and benefits everybody ? Common good, etc...
> 
> That being said, yes, doing things in less distro-specific ways does
> involve compromise, and I'm not very optimistic about getting any of
> that for the software center...

yah - I have firsthand experience the pains of doing things in less
distro-specific ways. The repodata was done that way and all changes
require an enormous amount of discussion and frequently never happen b/c
of the discussion. It is sometimes excruciating.

-sv




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