Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

Kevin Fenzi kevin at
Wed Sep 15 00:57:06 UTC 2010

On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 01:05:34 +0200
Lennart Poettering <mzerqung at> wrote:

> On Tue, 14.09.10 16:01, Kevin Fenzi (kevin at wrote:
> > * #461 F14 blessing for systemd  (nirik, 20:12:29)
> >   * LINK:
> > and
> >
> > (nirik, 20:38:06)
> >   * ACTION: : will defer systemd to f15 release to give more time
> > to fix small issues and docs and general polish.  (nirik, 21:12:43)
> >   * ACTION: notting will look at what's required to flip the
> > default in f14  (notting, 21:13:44)
> Nice move.


> Lennart
> (Well, and I guess this will create a flamefest, but I won't reply
> to the thread.)

I hope you still read it. I have some advice for you, which of course
you're welcome to take or leave: 

Please don't take everything personally. 

This is not about you as a person. I think systemd is cool and needed,
and I think you have been doing a fine job fixing bugs and issues. As a
whole, fesco decided to wait to make it default until next release.
There should not be any angst here, everyone wins: 

- Users get a more polished/documented/ready thing. 
- You don't have to spend crazy hours working on blockers before
  releases in a hurry, you can perhaps also spend some time on
  pulseaudio this cycle too?

Anyhow, please don't take things personally please? 

lets all just work to make a better fedora. 

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