Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

Kevin Fenzi kevin at
Wed Sep 15 01:02:33 UTC 2010

On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:48:13 -0400
Máirín Duffy <duffy at> wrote:

> Hi FESCo members,


> Only 5 of the 9 FESCo members voted on this issue. If all 9 had voted,
> even with the current 3 for / 2 against vote, systemd could easily
> have enough votes for inclusion in F14. I have a couple of questions
> for you, FESCo, since I honestly don't know and maybe would feel more
> comfortable knowing:


> - Has there been any consideration for formalizing the acceptable of
> absentee votes?

no, but perhaps there should be?

> - How many members must be present at a meeting for a voting decision
> to be considered valid?

My understanding: A quorum (ie, 5 of 9). 

> - Is it possible to collect the votes of the folks who were not
> present?

yes. And I filed a ticket last week to do so:

I'm pretty bummed that only 3 fesco members bothered to vote there. 

> Let me make one thing clear: if FESCo decides that this is the best
> decision in the interest of Fedora, I trust you all completely to make
> the right call. I am just coming away with the feeling that this is a
> little closer to a dice roll - depending on who & how many showed up -
> than I feel is really fair given the magnitude of the issue. This
> decision while pending has come up as a topic time and time again in
> Board meetings & community Q&A so it seems a major issue for a lot of
> folks in Fedora. Therefore, I feel it should be something FESCo is
> quite sure about.

I'm happy to look for ways to make the other fesco voices heard. 
Any ideas? I could try making the tickets have some more descriptive

> Again, either way the decision goes - fine. It would be nice to hear
> from the FESCo members not present on how they feel about the
> decision, though.

I'd love to too. 

> Is anyone else feeling a little uncomfortable about the voting
> process, irregardless of its conclusion?

Sure. I wish it was more clear cut too. 

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