Fedora "backports" repo? (Was Re: PostgreSQL 9 for F14?)

Jon Masters jonathan at jonmasters.org
Wed Sep 22 04:34:57 UTC 2010

On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 10:59 -0400, Brandon Lozza wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> wrote:
> > On 09/21/2010 07:20 AM, Brandon Lozza wrote:
> >> One thing I wanted to point out. Windows users get to install the
> >> latest Firefox, KDE, and other apps without having to wait for a new
> >> Windows release. If users had to wait for Windows 8 to get the latest
> >> Firefox, things would be messy. I don't understand what the fear is of
> >> doing this on GNU/Linux.

In my personal opinion, Windows makes mistakes, but is more enlightened
when it comes to embracing users installing stuff they did not get from
Microsoft. On non-enterprise Linux systems, the libraries and userland
change so often you really do need to either have a third party building
for every release, or getting it in the distro (which isn't always
practical or possible). I'm sure I'll be told how "wrong" I am.

> However, if for example Microsoft had a similar system and did package
> software for it. Their users would be up in arms for the latest
> firefox too and Microsoft wouldn't keep them on an old firefox
> version. Where is the logic in NOT having the latest software as long
> as it doesn't break file format compatibility?

You know what's kinda cool about some other Operating Systems? (Linux,
non-Linux, etc.) You install them, then they always work the same way
until you decide to upgrade them one day (when you set aside time to fix
all the "this shouldn't be a problem, but oh yea, there's that corner
case that..." issues). All the bugs are consistent, if you plug in a
gizmo it works or doesn't, but there are few random surprises. I love
lack of random surprises. It's not just file formats and the innards.

I'd rather see either a backports repo with all the junk, or just no
junk and only have new stuff land in the next release. That changes
nothing about Fedora releases, other than adding predictability.


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