Thomas Janssen thomasj at
Sun Sep 26 12:57:02 UTC 2010

On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Gerald Henriksen <ghenriks at> wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:26:46 -0400, you wrote:
>>I can't tell people Fedora is the best if it's not carrying the latest
>>upstream KDE, its just not possible. I'm constantly recruiting new
>>users. I'm in regular contact with the team of people who run
>>If a new release of KDE comes out, this is what happens currently
>>1) Kubuntu adds a backports PPA. Stable users do not get the latest KDE.
>>2) openSUSE will have it in their KDE Factory Repo, and it will turn
>>into a release Repo later (not stable). Stable users do not get the
>>latest KDE.
>>3) Mandriva will have official packages on but they aren't
>>pushed as updates. Stable users do not get the latest KDE.
>>4) Fedora will have it entirely unofficially as a third party repo for
>>a few weeks, it will also be in the official repo in updates-testing
>>and then in updates. Stable users DO get the latest KDE.
>>This makes Fedora BETTER than the rest.
> For your particular definition of better, which does not necessarily
> agree with anyone elses defintion of better.

Since it agrees at least with my definition of better, you might keep
rhetoric stuff like that.

>> If we delegate the latest KDE
>>to backports like everyone else, how does that make Fedora better? And
>>we do want to be better than everyone else if we want to compete with
>>Apple and Microsoft.
> How does shipping out possiblity disruptive changes mid-release help
> us compete with anyone else?  Or make us better than anyone else?

You obviously want to re-read what he wrote, except you really can't
see the part with the competition and better (not saying that i think
we compete with Apple or Microsoft). BTW, speaking of "possibility
disruptive changes", you don't want to send out any update then, since
it *can* be "possibility disruptive changes". Plus, you will find
enough non-KDE updates disruptive in the past (past as in before right

Maybe it fits here best as well, please keep rhetoric stuff like that,
because he has some points.

Best regards

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