[Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Beta RC1 Available Now!

Camilo Mesias camilo at mesias.co.uk
Fri Apr 8 21:18:12 UTC 2011


I wasn't aware of the distinction between the candidates and the
naming of the files downloaded didn't help, so I think some
clarification might be worthwhile.

By downloading a couple of TCs I came across this problem:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694915

-Cam

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 16:37 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote:
>
>>  Why on earth do we need a 'candidate' for a release candidate, or an
>> alpha or beta candidate. We have ordinal numbers on them ... so just use
>> them.
>>
>>    .. if RC1 is lacking - fine - we'll move to RC2 ... etc.
>>
>>   My opinion of course :-)
>
> The actual pre-releases - Alpha, Beta - get distributed and promoted far
> and wide; they're required to meet certain quality standards to ensure
> they don't provide a really bad impression of the project and to make
> sure they actually provide for useful testing and feedback from 'normal'
> testers. The candidate builds get distributed and promoted in a very
> restricted way (they live on one server and are announced on the test
> and desktop mailing lists) and exist so that we can do testing to make
> sure they meet the standards expected of a 'public' release.
>
> Your scheme doesn't preserve the distinction between these different
> types of builds.
>
> To put it bluntly - especially with TCs, when we spin them we don't know
> for sure if they even work. We've had more than one TC build (even RC
> build) that was effectively DOA. Hell, on the Beta RC1 we span
> yesterday, anaconda cannot be run from any live image; that's not
> something we want to be putting out as a 'public' release, even a
> pre-release.
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