systemd in F15 orphaned?

[Jon Ciesla]

>
>
> Am 23.08.2011 15:36, schrieb Jon Ciesla:
>>>> Fedora?  Production?  I do that, but I'm mental
>>>
>>> yes - from F9 to F14 this was really easy
>>> VMware-Cluster with snapshots, some backup-machines as test
>>> all machines using the same internal cache-repo and no external
>>>
>>> per server 4-6 minutes and 30 seconds for reboot
>>> no problem maintain 23 servers this way with a little brain and
>>> helper-scripts
>>>
>> Agreed.  But it's not for everyone. ;)
>
> maybe, but i am not everyone - i know exactly what i do and something
> goes terrible wrong if the really expierienced users have more
> troubles as some standard desktop-user
>
>>> but F15 is the first release where this feels really ugly with no
>>> benefit
>>> anywhere until now
>>
>> "Feels"?  So. . .you have to change your helper scripts?  I'm confused
>
> my self written watchdog which detects reboot/shutdown and calls of
> /sbin/service
> doe snot work any longer and this script is simply perfect restarting
> services
> and giving the result of /sbin/service out results in a perfectly cron
> mail
>
> with systemd - not possible, if systemd is reastrting a service you get
> NOT
> notfied - this is essential because it is one thing a service is fired up
> again automatically but if you are not notified and this happens to often
> you will not recognize this
>
> below a example
>
>>> Betreff: Cron <root at myhost> php /scripts/rh_watchdog.php
>>> Datum: Tue,  5 Jul 2011 17:38:01 +0200 (CEST)
>>> Von: Cron Daemon <root at mydomain>
>>> An: root at mydomain
>>>
>>> "httpd" not running, waiting 5 seconds and restart if it not comes back
>>> httpd beenden: [FEHLGESCHLAGEN]
>>> httpd: no process found
>>> httpd starten: [  OK  ]
> ___________________________
>
> services with .socket-files are NOT stopped with "systemctl stop
> name.service"
> and suddenly fired up and the missing feddback of "systemctl" is bad
>
> below a example-mail of a weekly job stopping two mysqld-instances
> on a machine (one of them replication-slave) and let rsync backup#
> the replication into the other one - this have to be totally changed
>
>>> Betreff: Cron <root at myhost>  nice -n 19 bash
>>> /opt/scripts/backup-mysql.sh
>>> Datum: Sat,  2 Jul 2011 03:10:01 +0200 (CEST)
>>> Von: Cron Daemon <root at mydomain>
>>> An: root at mydomain
>>>
>>> Sat Jul  2 03:10:01 CEST 2011
>>> mysqld beenden:  [  OK  ]
>>> replication beenden:  [  OK  ]
>>> replication starten:  [  OK  ]
>>> mysqld starten:  [  OK  ]
>>> Sat Jul  2 03:24:33 CEST 2011
>
> there are tons of such scripts running perfectly since years and all of
> that has to be changed/replaced/retested because of systemd
>
So they need to be changed, yes.  A pain, but. . .

>without any real benefit at this time

. . .to you, perhaps.  For many, however.

-J


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