[HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide

[Jon Ciesla]

> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 08:47:40 -0500, JC (Jon) wrote:
>
>> >> The Julian and Gregorian calendars are also of religious origin.
>> >
>> > Apples and oranges.
>> >
>> > Do you find anything like in the "SEE ALSO" section of "man ddate"
>> also
>> > in "man date"?
>
>> That may be (both are human constructs, it's like say "hey, that's made
>> up
>> word!", but no, I don't.  My point is simply that while it is extremely
>> silly code, it is in fact code provided by upstream.  It's still
>> maintained, is of a valid license, and I don't see a valid reason to
>> break
>> with upstream here.  If you can convince upstream to split it out or
>> drop
>> it, great.  If not, and there isn't a compelling disk space or security
>> argument, I really don't see why this should be dropped.  I'm looking
>> for
>> a clear example of demonstrable harm.  It's 14k of silliness, not a
>> rootkit.
>
> With that point of view, it's probably impossible to convince you.
> I won't try. I just encourage Karel to get rid of ddate somehow.
>
> A "valid reason" IMO is to build a base distribution, a product -- our
> product -- which does not consist of "extremely silly code" and which
> does not advertise dubious religions. Not even with links as found in the
> manual. There are several scenarios where we divert from upstream due
> to various circumstances.
>
Sure, for sufficient reasons.

> Whether it's harmful to distribute ddate, I don't know. Isn't it enough
> reason to not offer something because it's considered silly/crazy crap?
> Or if it doesn't make sense to ship it as part of a default OS
> environment?
>
I'm not suggesting ddate is mission-critical, I just want reasons for it's
removal or re-packaging to be well thought-out, not simply "gosh, I don't
sue that, so. . .".  Otherwise we'll start dropping games.

>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discordianism#Discordian_calendar
>
> | Most common Linux operating system-distributions have the command ddate
> | to show the current Discordian date.
>
> Strange people these Linux people.
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discordian_calendar#Implementations
>
> | ddate, a program that prints the current date in the Discordian
> calendar,
> | is part of the util-linux package of basic system utilities.[6] As such,
> | it is included in nearly all Linux distributions, despite some
> | resistance.[7] There are many other programs with similar functionality.
>
>  -> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=149321
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