state of systemd in Fedora and services pledge

Michał Piotrowski mkkp4x4 at
Wed Feb 23 22:12:35 UTC 2011

2011/2/23 Toshio Kuratomi <a.badger at>:
> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 09:33:33PM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
>> 2011/2/23 Toshio Kuratomi <a.badger at>:
>> > If a particular piece of software is going to convert from systemv init
>> > scripts to systemd unit files we'll end up with two important rpm files.
>> > One that is before the conversion and has sysv init scripts and one that is
>> > after the conversion and has systemd unit files.
>> IFAIU RPM after conversion should have both - sysv init scripts and
>> systemd services.
>> Why do you want to remove sysvinit scripts? Both scripts can coexist
>> without any problem.
> Agreement in the packaging committee is that we want one or the other but
> not both because of the confusion having both will cause to people using the
> package.  For example, if both are installed, a system admin might try to edit the
> SysVinit script and not understand why his changes aren't having an effect
> on the system.

Indeed it can be a problem.

> The brief version of that is in the first note here:
> -Toshio
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