F15 Alpha impressions

Panu Matilainen pmatilai at laiskiainen.org
Mon Feb 28 08:46:28 UTC 2011


On 02/28/2011 08:43 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 23:18 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 23:03:02 +0100, drago01 wrote:
>>
>>>> Btw, I think the GNOME 3 roll-out in Fedora should be "all or nothing",
>>>> that means, no *competing* fallback mode that tries to keep old panel
>>>> features alive.
>>>
>>> Well the primary purpose of the fallback is to home something for
>>> devices without proper 3D acceleration (either because the driver
>>> sucks, the hardware is too old or because it is a VM).
>>
>> ... and to make it easier for people, who don't like the new GNOME,
>> to switch to something more "familiar"? Just to not lose them to a
>> different DE?
>
> No. That's not an intended purpose of the fallback mode. The GNOME team
> expressly does not want to maintain a 'classic' interface alongside the
> new interface for refuseniks, in much the same way as the KDE team did
> not want to burden themselves with maintaining KDE 3 alongside KDE 4. As
> drago01 said, the fallback mode is intended _only_ to cope with cases
> where the Shell actually cannot run.

It's one thing to refuse to maintain another interface just because old 
grumpies (and yes I'll freely admit myself being one) don't like change, 
but in this case they have to maintain it anyway because gnome-shell is 
fundamentally tied to something (3d acceleration) that by its very 
nature is not going to be available in number of situations. And as an 
consquence, the user now gets (and is supposed to learn) a completely 
different environment depending on how and where he/she logs in: think 
of multiple computers (some gnome-shell capable, some not) with shared 
home directory, remote logins etc.

	- Panu -


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