systemd: Is it wrong?

Lennart Poettering mzerqung at 0pointer.de
Sun Jul 10 22:53:57 UTC 2011


On Sun, 10.07.11 05:46, Jon Masters (jonathan at jonmasters.org) wrote:

> 
> On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 23:32 -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:
> > 
> > On 07/08/2011 10:57 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> 
> > > Or in other words: configuration via command line arguments or
> > > environment variables sucks.
> 
> I disagree. It doesn't suck. It's the way UNIX and Linux have done this
> for dozens of years, and it's the way countless sysadmins know and love.
> "Sucks" might be true from the point of view of "hey look at this great
> thing I just designed", but it's very much not true from the point of
> view of the sysadmin working on the weekend who's just thinking "gee,
> what the heck is going on, why won't this just work how it has done for
> the past twenty years?". In other words "suck" depends on viewpoint.

Oh man, you are getting boring.

I never said that people should stop using env vars or cmdline args. But
they suck as primary path of configuration for a daemon.

And don't tell me that the primary way how Linux services have always
been configured was via cmdline arguments. That's simply nonsense. And
even if it was true -- which it isn't -- that doesn't make it a good
idea.

Anyway, I don't think this is a discussion worth having, and this
appears to be mostly an attempt to create flame war out of nothing, so
let's agree to disagree on this, and leave it at that.

Lennart

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Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc.


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