BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

Paul W. Frields stickster at
Thu Jul 14 18:28:00 UTC 2011

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 01:06:45PM -0400, John Dulaney wrote:
>  On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  > Am 14.07.2011 03:57, schrieb Eric Sandeen:
>  >>> bleeeding edge / modern technology is not the same as dangerous defaults
>  >>> unstable / unfinsihed packages should never be default in GA nor replace
>  >>> existing and over a long time well working things - never!
>  >>
>  >> You might have said the same thing about ext4 in F
>  >> and yet, here we are, shipping it as default for many releases now, with
>  >> little trouble.
>  >
>  > ext4 is not written from scratch and it is a hughe difference
>  > if we are speaking from a improvement of ext2/ext3 with many
>  > years history on all sorts of setups (desktop, server, notebook)
>  >
>  > the troubles of lost kde settings was enough on crashes and yes
>  > i had the luck of a system-disk hangig some times exactly as
>  > this was discussed in a way "POSIX do not say what exactly
>  > happens after that, it says only the FS must be clean and
>  > not what data are there or not"
>  >
>  > virtual machines this time are really a normal thing and if
>  > there are hughe troubles now a FS should NOT be DEFAULT in a
>  > few months - why everytime this hurry? jesus one of the biggest
>  > benefits of open source is that there ar eno marketing idiots
>  > with release plans which forcing a release without enough testing
>  >
>  > so why do we not need this benefits and fire out permanently
>  > new technologies in a not understandable hurry?
>  >
> Dude, what's with always being so negative?  All this negative energy
> almost makes one think that you're using a Microsoft product to
> compose your emails, and that's just not groovy, man.  Fedora doesn't
> flow with long stable technologies, it embraces the new.  And, if you
> cannot embrace the new with Fedora (whether it be systemd or btrfs)
> then why not go with something archaic, like CentOS?  At least
> expunge all that negativity, ya know?  If you don't like all the new
> cool in Fedora, don't go say that things are 'being shoved down our
> throats' like you said about systemd.  That's just not happening, man.
> And, when it comes down to it, you can go join the Cool Cats over at
> Slackware; Patrick Volkerding is one very, very cool dude.  Then again,
> they might not dig the negatrons that you seem to extrude from every
> bit of your soul.

I agree with keeping things positive; let's also keep the thread
oriented on the technical and not the personal.  (Informed by facts
wherever possible would also be great!)

Thanks for pointing out the fact that Fedora's mission includes
promoting innovation and rapid advancement.  More information is found

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