F15 / VirtualBox

Stephen John Smoogen smooge at gmail.com
Thu Jun 9 22:59:13 UTC 2011

On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 18:37, Dave Jones <davej at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 02:00:57PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>  > On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 08:01:06PM +1000, Chris Jones wrote:
>  >
>  > > I agree. As virtualization technology becomes more and more involved
>  > > and frequent on users systems, particularly with advanced Linux users,
>  > > I think there needs to be a strong focus on ensuring that all releases
>  > > run in virtualized environments without any major issues. ie.
>  > > Virtualbox.
>  > >
>  > > Perhaps a dedicated team among the developers who specialize in this area.
>  >
>  > I don't think there are any developers working on this area, where "this
>  > area" is Virtualbox. We don't ship Virtualbox. We don't ship a kernel
>  > that has any knowledge of Virtualbox. There's a good argument for having
>  > this be part of the QA process and requiring that we boot in the common
>  > virtualisation environments as part of the release criteria, but I don't
>  > think we can realistically suggest that our virtualisation developers
>  > (who work on code that has nothing to do with Virtualbox) be responsible
>  > for that.
> I'm curious why virtualbox has gained so much inertia so quickly.
> Based solely on the number of kernel bug reports we get that seem to be
> related to it, I have almost zero confidence in it being reliable.

1) It works in windows
2) It works in mac os-x
3) Oracle has put a lot of money/effort in pushing it via searches

and probably a little of:

4) It is not from Red Hat.

> Why are people choosing it over other solutions, and what can we change
> in qemu/kvm to get users using that instead ?
>        Dave
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Stephen J Smoogen.
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