systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

Toshio Kuratomi a.badger at
Sun Jun 12 16:01:49 UTC 2011

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 08:19:03AM +0200, drago01 wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Toshio Kuratomi <a.badger at> wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:03:33PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> >>
> >> for decades. Fedora 14's init system isn't that different to the first version
> >> of RHL (4.0) I started using back in 96.
> >>
> > This is somewhat misleading.  There have been many rewrites of the init
> > system in the past decade.  In fact, the Fedora 14 init system has the
> > capability to be quite different than the SysVinit scripts that were adopted
> > in the mid-90s.  What is true is that Fedora 14 had not switched to using
> > the incompatible-with-SysVinit features of its default (or any of its
> > optional) init systems so the presentation and behaviour was almost the
> > same as older SysVinit.
> That's true but due to the way we used it upstart was more or less a
> renamed sysVinit.
Which is what I said in my last sentence, yes? ;-)

I wanted to clarify that there have been a lot of new, rewritten init
systems in the Linux ecosystem in the past decade, including upstart.  It's
just the Fedora default init system that's been an old fuddy-duddy about
adopting any of the rewritten-requiring features until now.

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