SYSTEMD: Give us a option for upstart

John Dulaney j_dulaney at live.com
Mon Jun 13 00:28:28 UTC 2011



> Am 13.06.2011 00:04, schrieb John Dulaney:
> >> PLEASE give us a option for systems upgraded with yum
> >> NOT USING "systemd" and force "upstart" as before
> > 
> > No one is stopping you from packaging upstart (assuming someone hasn't done so) for F15.
> 
> it is in the repos
> and it is replaced by "systemd" via yum dist-upgrade
> this is bullshit and should never happen by an upgrade

No, it does happen with upgrade.  systemd is supposed to replace upstart
whenever an upgrade from F15 is installed.  It is explicitly stated that systemd
is the default feature, and, as such, it will be installed by default.  Therefore,
it should happen, and the fact that it does mean that it is working.  Essentially,
if you do not want systemd, don't use Fedora 15.  It is that simple.

> >> * the system is running since years
> >> * every dist-upgrade via yum was no problem
> >> * now see screenshot
> >> * WTF is there to relabel if started with "selinux=0"-kernel-param
> >>
> >> WHY IN THE WORLD ARE USERS FORCED TO USE SYSTEMD ONLY BECAUSE
> >> THEY UPGRAD TO F15? DO THIS FOR NEW INSTALLATIONS BUT NEVER
> >> ON UPDATES
> > 
> > No one is forcing you to use F15
> 
> not today but in some months

How so?  How is it that in 'some months' you will be forced to use
systemd?  Are the Chinese going to torture you until you make the
switch?

Why not go with another distro that does not use systemd, rather
than complaining on here and mommicking the rest of us?  It really
seems that Fedora is not the distribution that fits your application.

John Dulaney
 		 	   		  
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