systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

Lennart Poettering mzerqung at 0pointer.de
Mon Jun 13 08:33:19 UTC 2011


On Fri, 10.06.11 19:50, Genes MailLists (lists at sapience.com) wrote:

> 
> On 06/10/2011 03:13 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> 
> 
> > what would be really nice is to redirect systemd discussions to its
> > upstream mailing list.  Fedora devel is hardly the best place for it. 
> > 
> > Rahul
> 
>   Beg to differ - rather vehemently too - politely but vehemently.
> 
>   systemd is only available in fedora[1] - we are the test pigs for
> better or for worse - and there are most certainly bugs in fedora's
> systemd.

Uh. You are confusing "available" with "being default". It is available
in quite a a number of distros, but F15 is the first big one to make it
the default.

>   Ok so he's on vacation - this is a very core part of the OS - who is
> backing him up I wonder? Who else is on the project?

A lot of folks. To join our community just drop by on #systemd and the
ML and you will always find folks happy to respond to your questions
UNLESS OF COURSE YOU LIKE TO WRITE THEM ALL IN UPPERCASE LETTERS WITH A
LOT OF EXCLAMATIONS AND INSULTS LIKE SOME PEOPLE ON THIS MAILING LIST
LIKE TO DO IT. In fact shouting all the time is a great way to get
yourself ignored.

>   Surely you're not saying there is no-one else working on systemd...
> and when LP is away/busy nothing will get done ... otherwise I strongly
> urge it be replaced by upstart asap.

Just because I am away for a week or two systemd development didn't
stop. We have quite a few contributors (ohloh counts 66 patch authors),
and there a 5 folks with commit access, and a couple of patches went in
while I was gone.

I think systemd is a very healthy project. Much healthier than a lot of
projects we ship in our distribution by default and even then some of
its core components.

Uh, and even much healthier than Upstart, which you seem to be a big fan
of. Ohloh lists 3 patch authors. (But I figure that is out-of-date, it
cannot be that low)

Lennart

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