The behaviour of systemctl.

[Steve Clark]

On 06/19/2011 06:54 AM, Aaron Sowry wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:03:05AM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote:
>> Your point about column headers is taken (explicitly, in my mail) and
>> bears no more repeating since there's a bug about it.
> I didn't realise there was a bug for this, which is it?
>
>> Your point about paging continues to be that you don't like it for the
>> purist reason that unix-y tools shouldn't format their output.
> This is not just purism for purism's sake, I think the point is being lost here
> somewhere. To clarify, coding applications in this way results in:
>
> - Additional code to deal with output logic in different situations, which like
> all code, is potentially buggy. This is especially true when there is
> distribution-specific logic in the code.
>
> - Additional flags and corresponding documentation to modify behaviour which has
> been imposed on you by the author (--no-pager, adding/removing column headers,
> enabling/disabling --full output)
>
> - Output format from a command being non-obvious unless you are intimately familiar
> with the specific output logic of the command.
>
> - Additional dependencies and potential non-portability to other systems which
> may not satisfy these dependencies.
>
> - Increased learning curve, since behaviour differs from most other commonly
> used applications.
>
> The list goes on. If you want to call it purism then fine, just don't pretend
> there are no valid reasons for it.
>
>> I'm happy this is the default.  If you're not, why
>> not file a bug?  It's more effective than complaining on a downstream
>> mailing list.
> I already did, bug 713567. It was CLOSED WONTFIX within 45 minutes.
>
> /Aaron
Aaron, haven't you figured it out yet? As far as Lennart is concerned it is his way or the highway!

My $.02 after following all the threads about sysemd/ctl.

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