PLEASE Re: systemd: bugreports for missing service-files

[Reindl Harald]

sorry TYPO below

dbmail-imapd.service:
Before=mysqld.service

results also in mysql-errors in dbmail
please take a look at the follwoing bugreport

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=714426

Am 21.06.2011 02:18, schrieb Reindl Harald:
> please read this post, do not answer until tomorrwor and
> try to undertand what i hardly want to explain you
> 
> Am 21.06.2011 01:35, schrieb Lennart Poettering:
>> On Tue, 21.06.11 01:18, Reindl Harald (h.reindl at thelounge.net) wrote:
>>
>>>> You keep talking about 'random order' but I'm not sure this is accurate.
>>>> My understanding was that systemd respects the dependency information in
>>>> LSB-compliant headers and hence will fire these up in the correct order
>>>> as long as the dependencies are correct. If there are any LSB-type
>>>> headers with incorrect or incomplete dependency information, this is a
>>>> bug that *can* be fixed with updates to F15
>>>
>>> god damned only the order is useless
>>
>> Your choice of words consisting of "fuck", "wtf", "god damned" and
>> constant shouting does not help improve your case
> 
> this is the result you are only speaking about the non-native mysqld
> of F15 while i try to find a way get mysqld independent of the fedora
> maintainers perfectly running AND that english is not my native language,
> i am really tired after trying days and nights to get mysqld native running
> 
> 
>> If the ordering information is available and correct then systemd will
>> execute services depending on MySQL only after MySQL is up and ready.
> 
> this is simply NOT true
> 
> even starting mysqld with a mysqld.service and starting dbmail.services
> also with native servcies which are providing "Before=dbmail-imapd.service"
> results in connection errors in the maillog because mysqld is not ready
> and this is why i implented the "mysqld.socket"
> 
> if mysqld.socket is used "systemctl stop mysqld.service" results in a restart
> and you will me explain that "systemctl stop mysqld.service mysqld.socket"
> is they way to go instead making systemd smarter
> 
> so please can we stop this brainless discussion and you try to think
> a little bit about usability and wtaht an admin expects if he stops a
> service manually
> 
> in simple words: "if i stop a service" nobody and nothing has to start
> it again, this must never happen except something oustide systemctl
> kills the process

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