Fedora 16 beta vice Knoppix

Adam Williamson awilliam at redhat.com
Wed Oct 5 07:30:14 UTC 2011

On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 07:16 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 10/05/2011 02:41 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > You can try rebuilding your live image with this patch to
> > spin-kickstarts:
> >
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739446
> >
> > to see if it makes any difference. it migrates the livesys stuff to
> > systemd, at least to an extent.
> > -- 
> Migrating livesys itself is just part of it as I found out when I looked 
> at converting the livesys service in what middle of july but due to lack 
> of time/interest from spin SIG we did not make that convertion in time 
> for F16 anyway we are running a bunch of service that dont belong on a 
> livecd/usb ( and on a desktop as well )  as has already be mentioned.

yes, but doing it partially is a sight better than not doing it at all.
It did seem to speed things up somewhat in my tests, I think because not
all of the rest of boot has to wait on livesys completing; systemd
manages to get some other stuff done while livesys is spooling through.

> If I can recollect then the livecd/usb tools needed to be looked at and 
> patched for proper systemd integration and they seemed to depended on 
> /dev/root which is a pretty broken concept today amongst other things 
> which was amongst few of the gotcha as I ran into while migrating that 
> stuff.

yes, if you want to do things in such a way that there's no livesys
shell script being run at all (whether it's triggered by a SysV or
systemd service), that would involve quite a bit of surgery.
Adam Williamson
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