submitters +1ing their own packages

Kevin Fenzi kevin at scrye.com
Thu Sep 8 00:47:05 UTC 2011


On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:15:56 -0700
Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 18:38 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
> > On 7 September 2011 01:02, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Is this a Bodhi bug? Or does FESCo expect voluntary compliance /
> > > case-by-case enforcement of this policy?
> > 
> > I'm guilty of this too; when I file an update that's not getting
> > enough karma (after a few weeks) then I give it a spin in a *fresh*
> > VM and test it out like any normal user would do. If this is wrong,
> > consider my wrists slapped, but otherwise I think it makes sense and
> > gets things moving.
> 
> It's against the current policy. I've argued along the same lines as
> you in past threads on this list, but I was on the minority side of
> the debate at the time, it seemed; more people were worried that
> maintainers would +1 their updates without bothering to test them
> properly.

As someone on the other side of this (although not strongly, I could
be convinced), I don't think thats my concern at all... 

* As a maintainer you should only be pushing an update you feel
  works/fixes something anyhow. Shouldn't that be an implied +1 always
  from the maintainer? 

* As a maintainer it's easy to have a env that gets out of sync with
  what a QA or end user would use. Ie, you make 20 iterations of a
  package to test something, tweak configs to check something, and get
  it all working, but perhaps your machine is no longer setup the way a
  fresh install or upgrade of your package would be. Or you tested a
  version and then changed just 'one little thing' and pushed that and
  it turned out to break it. 

* Even the best of us would like another pair of eyes to confirm
  something is really fixed/working. 

anyhow, just thought I would toss that out there... 

kevin
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