submitters +1ing their own packages

Johannes Lips johannes.lips at googlemail.com
Thu Sep 8 14:43:53 UTC 2011


Hi,

I think a major problem of the current update policy is, that regular 
users don't see if there are new package updates in updates-testing, 
unless they enable it and I doubt many regular users do this.

So we might think about spreading the word, when a new update of a 
software package is available in updates-testing. I don't know how we 
could achieve this. Perhaps an idea which I had earlier might be to 
start a page or service where you could "like" various packages and 
you'll get notifications if there is something happening with that 
package. Perhaps https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community/ could be a 
starting point for this idea.
Perhaps we could collect other ideas on this but I think if we make the 
update process more public we will get more testers for sure.

Johannes


On 09/08/2011 02:47 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:15:56 -0700
> Adam Williamson<awilliam at redhat.com>  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 18:38 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
>>> On 7 September 2011 01:02, Adam Williamson<awilliam at redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Is this a Bodhi bug? Or does FESCo expect voluntary compliance /
>>>> case-by-case enforcement of this policy?
>>>
>>> I'm guilty of this too; when I file an update that's not getting
>>> enough karma (after a few weeks) then I give it a spin in a *fresh*
>>> VM and test it out like any normal user would do. If this is wrong,
>>> consider my wrists slapped, but otherwise I think it makes sense and
>>> gets things moving.
>>
>> It's against the current policy. I've argued along the same lines as
>> you in past threads on this list, but I was on the minority side of
>> the debate at the time, it seemed; more people were worried that
>> maintainers would +1 their updates without bothering to test them
>> properly.
>
> As someone on the other side of this (although not strongly, I could
> be convinced), I don't think thats my concern at all...
>
> * As a maintainer you should only be pushing an update you feel
>    works/fixes something anyhow. Shouldn't that be an implied +1 always
>    from the maintainer?
>
> * As a maintainer it's easy to have a env that gets out of sync with
>    what a QA or end user would use. Ie, you make 20 iterations of a
>    package to test something, tweak configs to check something, and get
>    it all working, but perhaps your machine is no longer setup the way a
>    fresh install or upgrade of your package would be. Or you tested a
>    version and then changed just 'one little thing' and pushed that and
>    it turned out to break it.
>
> * Even the best of us would like another pair of eyes to confirm
>    something is really fixed/working.
>
> anyhow, just thought I would toss that out there...
>
> kevin
>
>
>



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