help updating sheepdog in F17

[Daniel P. Berrange]

On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 02:09:07PM +0200, Fabio M. Di Nitto wrote:
> On 4/4/2012 1:36 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 12:23:17PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> >> On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 09:23:16 +0200, FMDN (Fabio) wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> with one of the latest updates of corosync, we had to break some
> >>> API/ABI. All packages have been rebuilt and they are waiting for updates
> >>> to be available.
> >>>
> >>> I also re-built sheepdog
> >>> (http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=310076)
> >>>
> >>> but i don´t have super powers to push the update into F17 and I have
> >>> been unable to get in touch with current sheepdog maintainer (in CC).
> >>>
> >>> Can somebody help please? I have no interest in sheepdog myself, but i
> >>> also don´t like to leave transitions unfinished.
> >>
> >> Hard to help there, because you've created an update ticket already
> >>
> >>   https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-4877
> >>
> >> missing just the sheepdog build. If you unpushed it, any provenpackager
> >> could create a new ticket containing all packages. Editing other's tickets
> >> needs special privileges (probably limited to bodhi admins).
> >>
> >> Also, voting +1 on your own updates is being frowned upon. Even more so,
> >> if the stable karma threshold is just 1. We assume the update submitter
> >> is happy with the submitted builds, so that it doesn't need an explicit
> >> vote.
> > 
> > Indeed, what is the rationale for bohdi even allowing people to +1 their
> > own updates. Seems like it should be blocked, surely ?
> 
> Truth told, in our team(s), we use this "loophole" to save people time
> in "paperwork".
> 
> I can only speak for myself, but when we do updates of several packages
> at once, we _always_ coordinate/agree/pretest and all, way before the
> new stuff hits Fedora.
> 
> While i understand the point of karma, i see very little use of going
> around asking people to login/find the update/votes, etc. when can all
> be coordinate and driven by one person.
> 
> Then again, I am not here to start another thread. I would simply like
> to get a working version of sheepdog in F17 or somebody to retire the
> package if nobody uses it anymore.

In this case you added positive karma to your own update on 2012-03-30,
days before starting this thread about Sheepdog being broken. Given
that we're at F17 Beta, an ABI breaking change should not have been
scheduled for push to stable while you knew the Sheepdog issue was
not resolved. IMHO this is an abuse of the update process.

Daniel
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