What would it take to make Software Collections work in Fedora?

[Fernando Nasser]

And _maintain_ them, with all security fixes.

The problem with duplication is above all one of scalability of
maintenance.

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Aleksandar Kurtakov" <akurtako at redhat.com>
> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" <devel at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 11:14:01 AM
> Subject: Re: What would it take to make Software Collections work in Fedora?
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mark Bidewell" <mbidewel at gmail.com>
> > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
> > <devel at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 5:50:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: What would it take to make Software Collections work
> > in Fedora?
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Adam Williamson <
> > awilliam at redhat.com > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 2012-12-06 at 15:30 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> > > IMHO use of software collections is a symptom of a badly run
> > > organisation
> > > not devoting enough cycles to maintain the software it uses, and
> > > hoping
> > > (as in wishful thinking) no problem will go critical before the
> > > product
> > > they built on top of those collections is end-of-lifed
> > > 
> > > I completely fail to see how entities with that problem will
> > > manage
> > > to
> > > maintain the package number explosion creating software
> > > collections
> > > will
> > > induce.
> > 
> > On the one hand, I agree completely - I think the 'share all
> > dependencies dynamically' model that Linux distros have
> > traditionally
> > embraced is the right one, and that we're a strong vector for
> > spreading
> > the gospel when it comes to that model, and it'd be a shame to
> > compromise that.
> > 
> > On the other hand, we've been proselytizing the Java heretics for
> > over a
> > decade now, and the Ruby ones for a while, and neither shows any
> > signs
> > of conversion or just plain going away, so we may have to call it
> > an
> > ecumenical matter and deal with their models somehow. Sucky as it
> > may
> > be. I don't know, I'm a bit conflicted.
> > 
> > --
> > Adam Williamson
> > Fedora QA Community Monkey
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> > 
> > 
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> > I used to use Fedora as my primary OS (Now I use a Mac). The major
> > issue which drove me away and which I believe SC would help to
> > solve
> > is that with the current dependency model is that it becomes I want
> > a new version of Libreoffice so now I have to upgrade my entire
> > system from the Kernel on up (and by upgrade I mean clean install)
> > to avoid issues. SC would help decouple system and userland apps
> > which would do wonders for usability.
> 
> So are you saying that you will do the scl enabled builds of
> libraries needed by LibreOffice ?
> 
> 
> Alexander Kurtakov
> Red Hat Eclipse team
> 
> > 
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