What would it take to make Software Collections work in Fedora?

[Aleksandar Kurtakov]

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vít Ondruch" <vondruch at redhat.com>
> To: devel at lists.fedoraproject.org
> Sent: Friday, December 7, 2012 11:54:46 AM
> Subject: Re: What would it take to make Software Collections work in Fedora?
> 
> Dne 6.12.2012 17:31, Seth Vidal napsal(a):
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 6 Dec 2012, Jan Zelený wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> The original use case for SCLs is to provide a way to deliver
> >> newer
> >> versions
> >> of SW in stable distributions like RHEL/CentOS than those
> >> available
> >> in the
> >> core system and make sure system packages and collection packages
> >> don't
> >> collide in any way (names, libraries, system paths, ...).
> >>
> >
> > right and the motivators for the above are customers/users who have
> > to
> > deal with their developers complaining about wanting a
> > specific/newer/older/intermediate version of some language or
> > another
> > and its modules.
> >
> > they complain to their ops people, they complain to fedora/red hat.
> >
> >
> 
> Oh common. You offended every developer on this ML. May be you should
> consider that it is not just about developers, but it is also about
> their management and customers who pays their bills.
> 
> In my previous job, we were developing application for our internal
> customer. During development, we were free to use any library which
> suited our needs. However, in some point, our customer was satisfied
> with functionality he had and he didn't want to spent any more money
> on
> development. Since that time, during maintenance, it was not any more
> my
> choice what library of what version I will use, since the system was
> built and running.
> 
> Now suddenly, after several years, the provider wants to quit their
> services and the application needs to be migrated. That would be
> perfect
> case for SC, because it would allow migration with lowest cost.
> 
> So what you would suggest? Was there any decision wrong in that
> process?

Migration time is the perfect time to modernize your application. And the customer will pay the bill no matter what - whether he will pay for the creation of the SC or for modernizing the application. Why would you pay for maintaining some obsolete system when you can make it work in a more supportable way? This sounds really wrong to me. If we speak about people that are fine paying certain amount for maintaining SC every couple of months until it becomes impossible to maintain the app and they pay even more to write new app I would say that your definition of lowest cost is quite short sided.

Alexander Kurtakov
Red Hat Eclipse team


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