/usrmove? -> about the future

[Reindl Harald]

Am 10.02.2012 19:18, schrieb Chris Adams:
> Once upon a time, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net> said:
>> i have rpeorted A TON of bugs where services was not converted to systemd
>> many of them are also not converted until now
> 
> Are you doing this because there is a functionality problem?  Systemd is
> explicitly (mostly) backwards compatible with SysV-style init scripts,
> because they are going to exist for a long time to come (at least in
> third-party and vendor packages).  IIRC, systemd was introduced without
> any mandate to switch 100% of the init scripts.

it is proven that it is only MOSTLY comatible and you can
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=714426

only the egg-dance around mysqld shows that it was wrong
to bring in systemd without enforce convertig, read the
bugreport carefully so you may understand that half of
the time nobody knew how to do with systemd

currently nobody knows how much services are only
working in default configurations and with luck since
the order of start/stop is onot always the same

nobody knows what sevices are hardly or not conertable
currently because nobody tried it and in the worst case
if oyu start you find out missing features / design
problems in systemd which can only be cleaned up
while systemd-debelopers working hand in hand with packagers
what did and does not happen, and even if it happens now
it is way too late and should have been done BEFORE release it
as feature

it is proven not comatible because since F15 reboot/shutdown a machine
running VMwareWorkstation geusts leads in kill them hard instead suspend
and i spent many time to try services before "vmware" to suspend
which is all working ina dry run but if you call reboot the cmware-service
is stopped too soon and my only explaination is that systemd is designed
for doing things fast but not safe!


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