Apple will use LLVM

Matthew Garrett mjg59 at
Thu Feb 16 03:38:45 UTC 2012

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 01:22:51AM +0100, jonathan wrote:
> Apple move step by step to LLVM and stop to use gcc. The latest apple
> IDE (Xcode) will not ship gcc but llvm.
> It will be great to know if llvm is ready to do same for several
> important linux package.

We're already building at least one package (hfsplus-tools) with llvm 
because it relies on non-standard C extensions that gcc doesn't support, 
and I believe the current software rasteriser in mesa depends on it. In 
terms of it being the general compiler - it needs to work on all the 
architectures we care about, it needs to have a level of maintenance in 
Fedora at least as good as gcc, it needs to build better code than gcc 
and (most importantly) it needs somebody to actually take responsibility 
for proving all of that and making the transition happen.

Matthew Garrett | mjg59 at

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