[ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for F-17
tnorth at fedoraproject.org
Fri Jan 13 20:18:48 UTC 2012
I took GREYCstoration.
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler at chello.at> wrote:
> Bill Nottingham wrote:
>> Due to the orphaning of packages due to inactive maintainers, this list
>> is a little longer than normal.
> When we're in danger of losing so many packages, it's a sign that our
> processes are broken:
> * The forced password and SSH key change caused us to lose many maintainers,
> not all of whom would have become inactive if it hadn't been for such stupid
> asinine and totally useless (since the keys were NOT compromised) "security"
> bureaucracy being forced on them, wasting their time.
> * The whole concept of packages being "owned", and by one person at that, is
> broken. Fedora as a whole should feel responsible for those packages, commit
> access should be open to ALL packagers (not just provenpackagers) as in the
> good old Extras, and there should be experienced packagers actually stepping
> in to rebuild packages with broken dependencies, fix FTBFS issues etc. (I
> used to do that, but I had to mostly give up because nobody else would help
> (Alex Lancaster used to help fixing broken dependencies, but mostly doesn't
> anymore) and I don't have the time to do it all alone anymore.) And packages
> such as perl-* should just be owned (automatically) by the relevant SIG.
> * Depending on timing, some packages can end up retired with little to no
> time to pick them up first, e.g. in one case (avl), your mail threatens to
> retire a package less than 97 minutes (!) after it got orphaned. The time
> between the mass orphaning due to the "security" farce and the mass retiring
> (now) is also deeply insufficient, and there wasn't even one updated list of
> not yet picked up packages from the "security" fiasco (the original one
> contained way too many packages for packagers to notice the ones of
> interest) before this one which already threatens their removal.
> Any package which is removed from Fedora is a package our users will no
> longer be able to use. Removing a package should only be a last resort if it
> cannot be made to work at all.
> Kevin Kofler
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