*countable infinities only

Peter Jones pjones at redhat.com
Fri Jun 1 17:15:15 UTC 2012

On 06/01/2012 12:07 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Peter Jones wrote:
>> Next year if we don't implement some form of Secure Boot support, the
>> majority of Fedora users will not be able to install Fedora on new
>> machines.
> Nonsense. They will be able to install it very easily, they just need to set
> a single boolean in their BIOS setup from Enabled to Disabled.

I think your arguments so far are pretty wrongheaded, but aside from that
this statement in particular isn't necessarily the case at all.

We don't know what all firmwares' UI's will look like, and it's possible -
even somewhat reasonable - that instead of "enable secure boot [X]" some
vendors would implement it, for example, as "[remove trusted key]" or possibly
a combo box with options ["user mode", "setup mode", "custom mode"].  Those
are all examples that are relatively likely.

To say nothing of what apple would implement if they decide to ship SB (though
they don't use the windows 8 logo, so there's every chance they'd ship their
own keys, ship with no way to turn it off, or both.)


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